With the increasing role that analytics, data scientists and AI are playing in financial investigations, it begs the question as to whether veteran investigators and asset recovery specialists still have a role in the process. The answer is a resounding yes. Amber shares her thoughts on how stripping criminals of their pecuniary assets may be more effective than short custodial sentences. She also remarks that from her discussions with investigators that they regard the possibility of turning ‘bad money’ into good money as a net positive for society. The spotlight discussion concludes with a brief description of a research project that Amber is wrapping up about measuring success in financial recovery called “Beyond the Figures.” The aim is to move beyond quantitative measures because numbers are not always a good measure of impact and success in asset recovery. Following that, we chat with Sangeet about his new book Reshuffle. From the overlooked brilliance of the shipping container to the F1 pits that dethroned Schumacher’s dominance, Sangeet unearths a powerful pattern: the most transformative technologies do not merely automate, they transform entire economic systems. With vivid storytelling and razor-sharp analysis, Reshuffle connects the dots between technology, behavior, and economic architecture. It delivers a bold and incisive exploration of how AI’s impact goes far beyond changing how we work to reorient the foundations of power and control in our economic systems. Blending compelling examples, historical parallels, and bold insights, Reshuffle equips readers to navigate the many opportunities and challenges that AI introduces while reshaping the knowledge economy. This book is your guide to understanding who wins, and who gets left behind, when AI restacks the deck." "What if we’ve misunderstood the real power of AI — not as a tool for doing tasks faster, but as the missing mechanism for making complex systems finally work together?” Sangeet asks We have all heard the common refrain from thought leaders like Peter Zeihan that: “AI won’t take your job, but someone using AI will.” At this point, it is a hackneyed phrase. Sangeet shares with Ajay what drew him to AI and why he felt the need to write his book now and what it offers an ever growing and crowded field on the subject matter. His message is to the heads executives of incumbent firms across sectors and what he elaborates on during the broadcast is that financial services sector veterans still dealing with COBOL-based mainframes and siloed databases, Reshuffleprovide a guide to thinking about how artificial AI will disrupt and how it can be harnessed. Specifically for leaders in financial services, Sangeet’s framework offers sobering and practical lessons: - AI is not an upgrade but a governance shift. It changes how control is exercised, from top-down compliance to bottom-up feedback. Governance emerges not through rules but through continuous observation. - Legacy integration is a coordination challenge, not a software one. AI exposes the limits of point solutions by making evident the frictions between them. - The new competition operates above the algorithm. Those who own the models may not capture the most value; those who orchestrate decisions and distribution around them will. - Traditional productivity metrics are misleading. Efficiency inside a department can destroy coherence across the enterprise. The metric to optimize is coordination quality. In this context, financial institutions face a choice: remain custodians of static infrastructure or become orchestrators of dynamic ecosystems. The former optimizes for compliance; the latter competes for relevance. In this new world of AI, the standard corporate playbook for digital transformation no longer works. AI is not a laboratory initiative, built around innovation labs, agile working, sprints. These may remain helpful at a tactical level, but they do nothing to reconsider how the basis of value creation is changing, nor sustain an incumbent’s advantages of trust, compliance, and scale. If someone else can better coordinate all the disparate elements, banks or insurers focused just on digital transformation will lose. The good news is that there os no reason why financial institutions cannot leverage AI to remain leaders in their field, or even set the rules for the next cycle. But AI requires an even more radical approach than digitalization. Sangeet’s book is a good place to start.